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MesajSubiect: SMURD EC135's   Vin 20 Noi 2015, 19:54

These are the well-known SMURD EC135's. Do any of these (except 344, 345 & 346 listed below) have temporary YR-marks? One has been seen as YR-MAI on delivery.

340 EC135T2 0692 D-HECQ
341 EC135T2 1034 D-HECG
342 EC135T2 1060 D-HECK
343 EC135T2 1075 D-HCBE
344 EC135T2 1088 D-HECR, YR-ECR
345 EC135T2 1115 D-HECQ, YR-CJC
346 EC135T2 1124 D-HECQ, YR-SKY
347 EC135T2 1140 D-HECH
348 EC135T2 ???? w/o 15Dec14

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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Vin 20 Noi 2015, 21:14

328 EC135T2 0328 w/o 24Dec06
334 EC135T2 0334


348 EC135T2 ???? w/o 15Dec14 ..... YR-CJC
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Dum 29 Noi 2015, 21:11

So 348, not 345, is c/n 1115? Then what is the c/n of 345?

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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Lun 30 Noi 2015, 08:02

AFAIK:
345 - 135T2 - 1124
346 - 135T2 - 1140
347 - 135T2+ - 1172
348 - 135T2+ - 1115 (YR-CJC)
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Lun 30 Noi 2015, 21:21

328,334 † † EC135T2
340-348 † † EC135T2+
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Joi 10 Dec 2015, 14:09

347 - 135T2+ - 1172 (or 1140 ?!?) ex-reg: YR-MAI (sursa Skywalker)
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Sam 12 Dec 2015, 11:40

Has anyone physically checked the dataplates of any SMURD EC135’s, particularly those serialled 343 to 348? Not interested in paper reports, web lists etc, only in physical dataplate or aircraft documentation checks.

If so, could they advise me of such physically known tie-ups please.

There is a photo of the dataplate of 334 on the group but, despite lots of web reports, there is uncertainty about these last six.

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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mier 16 Dec 2015, 20:21

Steve, I can give you dataplates with all of them, I am bringing them to Romania Smile. And I have all the original docs of the hc. Why would you need those plates?

328 - SN 0328
334 - SN 0334
340 - SN 0692
341 - SN 1034
342 - SN 1060
343 - SN 1075
344 - SN 1088
345 - SN 1124
346 - SN 1140
347 - SN 1172
348 - SN 1115
349 - Smile soon.

348 was the military registration of the SN 1115 since october 2014 until the crash. Before that was YR-CJC.

The temporary YR registration were chosen by me for the ferry flights from Germany to Romania,then de-registered.

They were:
344 - SN 1088 - YR-ECR
345 - SN 1124 - YR-JLM
346 - SN1140 - YR-SKY (guess the source of the registration Smile ).
347 - SN 1172 - YR-MAI

The D registration is the one from the factory, used sometimes for the ferryflight (341,342,343).
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mier 16 Dec 2015, 23:18

Magister dixit! 😊
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Joi 17 Dec 2015, 10:14

Hi and thanks very much. The reason is that there has been some doubt as to the identities of 344, 345, 346 & 347. Two reasons for this.

Firstly many sites do not realise that 348 has an out-of-sequence c/n, 1115, because it came from use by CJC.

Secondly, c/n 1172 has been thought to be in Albania, so could not be a Romanian one. But it seems so!

The only way to be sure if for someone to read the actual aircraft dataplates (or paperwork) to be certain.

And we look forward to 349 :-)

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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Dum 20 Dec 2015, 11:03

Hi Skywalker, quick question.

Can you confirm the D-H marks used on YR-MAI / 347 please?

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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mar 22 Dec 2015, 13:31

Steve, 347 was D-HCBB but only for factory and training flights. For the ferry flight to Romania a YR registration was used, YR-MAI (Ministerul Afacerilor Interne, the buyer).
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mar 22 Dec 2015, 18:15

Thanks, appreciated.

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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Dum 27 Dec 2015, 23:39

Hello Skywalker,

Very interesting information! Thank you.

Do you know the dates of the ferry flights? Would be interesting to know...

And where are the SMURD EC-135s normally based?


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MesajSubiect: YR-MPQ   Joi 21 Ian 2016, 23:20

The 343 temporary YR registration: YR-MPQ
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Vin 22 Ian 2016, 00:03

ovidiu51 a scris:
The 343 temporary YR registration: YR-MPQ
Gresit, nu a fost niciodata inmatriculat asa. E ceva cu inmatricularile alea Wink dar nu e ceea ce spui tu. Si e permanenta, nu temporara.
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MesajSubiect: YR-MPQ   Vin 22 Ian 2016, 01:46

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ovidiu51 a scris:
The 343 temporary YR registration: YR-MPQ
Gresit, nu a fost niciodata inmatriculat asa. E ceva cu inmatricularile alea Wink dar nu e ceea ce spui tu. Si e permanenta, nu temporara.
Daca e permanenta de ce nu e trecuta pe coada?
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Lun 01 Feb 2016, 10:16

YR-MPR = 344 si YR-MPS = 345?
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mar 02 Feb 2016, 08:03

ovidiu51 a scris:

Daca e permanenta de ce nu e trecuta pe coada?

Elicopterele au inmatriculare militara (34x) nu civila. De-asta pe coada vei gasi doar inmatricularea militara. Si e singura valabila pentru aeronavele respective.
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MesajSubiect: 343   Mier 03 Feb 2016, 00:51

Este clar ca elicopterele au inmatriculare militara. Problema era despre †inmatricularea temporara si nu cea actuala. Pe cranul radar elicopterele SMURD apar de cele mai multe ori cu inmatricularea civila temporara (cand au transponderul de la bord selectat in modul "Sierra").
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mier 03 Feb 2016, 10:08

Fiecare inmatriculare militara are "in spate" una civila tocmai pentru transpondere.
Nu e nici un secret, nici o filosofie, e o simpla convertire din litere in hod binar si apoi din 24 biti in 6 hexa, care se pune in transpondere. De-asta spun ca nu e temporara, e permanenta, "in spatele" celei militare. Practic, exista o asociere intre cele 2.
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mier 03 Feb 2016, 13:04

Skywalker a scris:
Fiecare inmatriculare militara are "in spate" una civila tocmai pentru transpondere.
Nu e nici un secret, nici o filosofie, e o simpla convertire din litere in hod binar si apoi din 24 biti in 6 hexa, care se pune in transpondere. De-asta spun ca nu e temporara, e permanenta, "in spatele" celei militare. Practic, exista o asociere intre cele 2.

Ne-ai putea da un exemplu ? Daca se poate.
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MesajSubiect: Re: SMURD EC135's   Mier 03 Feb 2016, 18:04

ATC Mode S 24-bit address

ICAO ANNEX 10, vol. III, chapter 9 - Aircraft Addressing System - Table 9-1 (se gaseste pe net).

RO: 0100 10 100 --- -- ---------- mai raman 15 biti de date (3 litere, din codurile de mai jos se scoate primul 0, deci raman 3 x 5 = 15 biti).
Odata adunati cei 24 biti pt respectiva inmatriculare se face asa: din totalul de 24 biti se transforma in 6 hexa cu un simplu calculator stiintific de birou. Si acest cod hexa se introduce in transpondere. As simple as that....

ANNEX 10, vol. IV, pag. 3-62

IA-5 International Alphabet Number

A 000001
B 000010
C 000011
D 000100
E 000101
F 000110
G 000111
H 001000
I 001001
J 001010
K 001011
L 001100
M 001101
N 001110
O 001111
P 010000
Q 010001
R 010010
S 010011
T 010100
U 010101
V 010110
W 010111
X 011000
Y 011001
Z 011010
SP 100000
0 110000
1 110001
2 110010
3 110010
4 110011
5 110100
6 110101
7 110110
8 110111
9 111000

Exemplu:
YR-BGH(BIN): †0100 1010 0000 1000 1110 1000
YR-BGH(HEX): 4A08E8

Si tot asa....


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