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 LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII

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MesajSubiect: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Mier 02 Mar 2011, 10:48

I’ve been asked some questions about the LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII. Are there any articles or photos relating to the LOT fleet as it arrived in Romania (particularly were any wearing the British registrations allocated for BOAC service?). Photos of the LOT fleet remarked with YR- registrations would also be interesting. On the link below there is a photo of the ex-LOT DC-2 YR-GAD at Marseilles....was this possibly carrying the Romanian President Antonescu on a trip to Spain and Portugal?(in 1941?) (Possibly interesting that this DC-2 got a YR-reg based on its proposed British registration whereas the Lockheed 14 YR-BNH, which survived to visit Croydon post-war got a YR-reg based on its Polish registration, although G-AGAC was allocated)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aerofossile2012/3489059865/

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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Mier 02 Mar 2011, 12:21

ex-LOT DC-2 YR-GAD

http://rwd-dwl.net/rejestr/asa-asz.htm

http://www.goldenyears.ukf.net/reg_SP-1.htm

http://www.goldenyears.ukf.net/reg_YR-.htm
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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Mier 02 Mar 2011, 19:02

Some further data on YR-GAD.

SP-ASL Douglas DC-2-115F 1378 CofR # 335
Reg. 03/08/35 to LOT; evacuated to Romania 10/09/39; reg. G-AGAD 07/11/39 to Imperial Airways but remained in Romania and marks officially ntu; one source says that it was initially stored in the Air France hangar, part-camouflaged 20/09/39 when taken over by Romanian government, camouflage removed in 11/39 and fully painted as G-AGAD -- engines were run regularly -- late in 1939 it made an unauthorised flight to Caracal and was used for training purposes by the Air Force (in what marks ?); reg. YR-GAD to the Romanian Government for operation by LARES with CofA # 470 on 25/10/41; burned at Boteni due to enemy action, date unknown as is canc. date.

Anyone know when it was destroyed at Boteni?
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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Joi 03 Mar 2011, 23:01

ex-LOT DC-2 YR-GAD

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=YR

http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?AcType=DC2

http://sites.google.com/site/mgc151184/_/rsrc/1272049411917/wwii/douglas-dc-2-yr-gad/Douglas%20DC-2%20YR-GAD%2001.JPG

http://www.flightsim.com/zview.php?cm=view2&fn=%2Fhome%2Fflight%2Ffiles%2F67%2Fro_dc3_pack.zip&an=ro_dc3_pack%2FRomanian+Douglas+DC-3+collection.jpg&idx=41
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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Vin 17 Iun 2011, 11:39

There is another interesting article on this subject, and relating to the aircraft which escaped to Romania. I've scanned it at:-

http://www.thai-aviation.net/files/LOT_article_pp1.pdf

http://www.thai-aviation.net/files/LOT_article_pp2.pdf

http://www.thai-aviation.net/files/LOT_article_pp3.pdf

http://www.thai-aviation.net/files/LOT_article_pp4.pdf

Again, I'll leave these on my site for 2-3 weeks.

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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Vin 17 Iun 2011, 19:37

..very intresting article Steve. Here's a color profile of a Romanian Super-electra. YR BGF.



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MesajSubiect: Aircraft Polish refugees in Roumania   Lun 20 Iun 2011, 07:54

To establish the truth, planes were Polish refugees in Roumania, not seized.
We have the history of each aircraft and their crews fled in Roumania.


















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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Lun 20 Iun 2011, 10:49

Thanks for the photos. Can you share any new or corrected information?

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MesajSubiect: LOT airplanes   Lun 20 Iun 2011, 11:13

Texts exist, but was obtained through research in military archives of many hours of research.
We have details for each aircraft military and refugee staff.
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MesajSubiect: Potez 62   Lun 20 Iun 2011, 16:49

Potez 62, SP-NQM initially became YR-NQM
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MesajSubiect: Re: LOT aircraft impounded in Romania early in WWII   Lun 20 Iun 2011, 17:44

Thanks. And crashed sometime after 1944 with LARES? Where would I find details of the accident?

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MesajSubiect: Potez 62   Mar 21 Iun 2011, 10:21

Yes to August 11, 1944
Company LARES. Potez 62, WN.4206/7 YR-NQM injured at 16:30 at the aerodrome Craiova, caught fire in turnover for ndecolare and burned completely.
Crew: Pilot Radut Zosim, radio Vascular Ifrim, mec.Scopu George and all 12 passengers dead.
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MesajSubiect: Circonstances of crash   Sam 30 Ian 2016, 12:45

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Yes to August 11, 1944
Company LARES. Potez 62, WN.4206/7 YR-NQM injured at 16:30 at the aerodrome Craiova, caught fire in turnover for ndecolare and burned completely.
Crew: Pilot Radut Zosim, radio Vascular Ifrim, mec.Scopu George and all 12 passengers dead.

Hello,
Will you please precise how the Potez 62 was dammaged. Do you mean she has been turned upside-down when taking-off ?
Do you know more about this accident ?
Just a detail : WN. 4026

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MesajSubiect: Registration   Sam 30 Ian 2016, 12:51

Antoniu a scris:
Potez 62, SP-NQM initially became YR-NQM

Hello,
I know the registration YR-NQM (Nr 633, 10/03/44), but I have never met SP-NQM before.
Will you please give more precision ?

Thanks a lot !
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