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MesajSubiect: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 09:47

Has anyone visited here? N44.449072, E26.078535. Quite near Piazza Victoriei.

Apparently have MiG-21 '713' plus a MiG-17 and an Islander.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 12:57

All those planes are in some sort of interior courtyard that had a glass roof. All the glass is shattered and shards are hanging on what's left of the roof structure. All the shards that fell are on the ground and on the planes. As you can imagine, nobody is allowed inside and I'm not sure who would want to go there. You can see the planes from the gate. All of them are in bad shape. The BN-2 has no wings and I think it was a testbed for static loads.
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 13:10

Thanks. I'm in Bucharest next weekend, so may go to see. I'd love to know the identity of the Islander.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 19:39

Hi Steve, somebodyd did visit the place recently and snapped a few shoths of the MiG-21, see:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=7448&view=findpost&p=116028
In one of them you can see the BN-2 front fuselage trough the plexi of the MiG cockpit

Do you (or anybody else) know what is the serial of the MiG-17? Any pictures available?
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 20:09

Yep, seen this. Was hoping to identify the Mig-17 and Islander.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 22:21

Steve, I think you should contact eng. Sorin Dinea, who knows a lot about this museum. I visited the museum in December, I saw those planes in the patio, but the gentleman whou gave me information did not tell me about them. I think Sorin Dinea may be able to give you information.
You can contact him at:

contact@jet100.com
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Lun 28 Feb 2011, 22:44

Thanks, I'll do that now.
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Mier 02 Mar 2011, 09:12

Sorin has replied, and I hope to go there on Sunday. He says that they don't have an Islander.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Mier 02 Mar 2011, 14:09

MiG-17 reported as '413' by Sorin Dinea at the Museum.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Mier 02 Mar 2011, 19:21

413 is a MiG-17PF, the version with radar
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Mier 02 Mar 2011, 19:26

Yep, I'm no expert on MiGs, but isn't the one shown at

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/47123296.jpg

a 17PF?

I'm going there in a few days anyway.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Joi 03 Mar 2011, 20:18

Yes Steve, that's a PF. If the left side of the nose isn't de-skinned the serial 413 should still be visible.
Since you'll go there, we're waiting for photos Very Happy
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Mar 08 Mar 2011, 21:28

Visited here today. There are four airframes present, all in an internal courtyard under a derelict glass roof. Well inside the University grounds and impossible to see without making arrangements first.

MiG-21F-13 '713' (I assume c/n 740713). Wings stored separately

MiG-17PF '413' (I assume c/n 58310413). Sectioned on starboard side.

BN Islander fuselage unmarked. Painted in camouflage scheme by students. Interior gutted, although could just be a structural test airframe. There is an instrument panel stored separately (with labels in English) which I think is from the Islander.

Yak-52 unmarked. Complete except for undercarriage and engine. Unpainted. Entire airframe has small canvas fabric pieces attached, I suspect for wind tunnel testing (not sure, only a guess). Cockpits gutted, but several labels in cyrillic alphabet, so I assume ex-Russian.

Photos to follow.

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Joi 10 Mar 2011, 09:33

Photos:-

MiG-21 '713' at http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1280015/

MiG-17 '413' at http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1280018/

Others to follow ....
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Vin 11 Mar 2011, 09:48

Yak-52 at http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1280023/

Does anyone know what the canvas strips stuck to the airframe are?

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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Vin 11 Mar 2011, 10:08

Steve Darke a scris:
Yak-52 unmarked. Complete except for undercarriage and engine. Unpainted. Entire airframe has small canvas fabric pieces attached, I suspect for wind tunnel testing (not sure, only a guess). Cockpits gutted, but several labels in cyrillic alphabet, so I assume ex-Russian.
All Yak-52 were built in Romania, at Bacau. The reason for the cyrilic script is that the vast majority of these airframes were built for the Soviet DOSAAF (over 1000 from the late 70's - early 80's until the early 90's)

AFAIK the canvas bags sticked to the airframe held led weights, for accelerated fatigue testing on the ground.
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MesajSubiect: Re: Muzeul Universitatii Politehnica din Bucuresti    Vin 11 Mar 2011, 19:28

And the Islander photo at http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1280020/

There is a suggestion that this is an ex Angolan Air Force fuselage shipped to Baneasa in 1981. It was due to be repaired, but the wings never arrived. It was last noted in 1991, and has no reports since. Some thoughts were that it may have be mated to a Romanian wing and rebuilt. The Angolan aircraft was c/n 797 serial 2454.

Anyone know more?
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