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MesajSubiect: Avioane conversie Pasageri-Cargo   Mier 20 Oct 2010, 12:17

Hello,

Care ar fi avioanele (actualmente in operare) care pot fi utilizate in configuratii Pasageri-Cargo ? (fie configuratie jumatate pasageri si jumatate cargo - am vazut recent in TR din nordul Canadei Smile)

Eu stiu :

- 737-300 Quick Change

un mare operator de astfel de aeronave este www.europeairpost.com (super afacere : vara inchiriaza avioanele tur operatorilor turistici pentru chartere si fac activitate cargo in rest)

- a existat un 747 care avea spatiu de marfa si pasageri (incident faimos SAA care a luat foc deasupra oceanului) - nu stiu daca mai exista.

- va exista se pare un A320 PTF passenger-to-freighter

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/10/20/348709/airbus-further-delays-certification-of-a320-ptf.html



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MesajSubiect: Re: Avioane conversie Pasageri-Cargo   Vin 22 Oct 2010, 11:27

Mai sunt :

Boeing 757-200 P2F

in viitor un :

767-300ER P2F

Un Boeing MD-80 nu ar fi rau Smile

Titlu: Wagner plans to launch 767 cargo conversion programme
Sursa: flightglobal
Autor: Brendan Sobie
Data: 21.10.2010

Citat :
Wagner Aeronautical is preparing to launch a passenger to freighter (P2F) conversion programme for the Boeing 767-300ER, providing a third PTF option for the 767 after Boeing and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI).

Wagner CEO William Wagner says his small California-based firm, which designed the Boeing 757-200 P2F product now sold by Precision Conversions, has been "tinkering" with a 767 P2F product for the last two years and believes demand for 767 conversions is now sufficient to support a third conversion provider.

"We're hoping by the end of this year or the first quarter of next year to make a [launch] announcement," Wagner told ATI and Flightglobal on the sidelines of the 20 October Cargo Facts 2010 Aircraft Symposium in Miami.

Wagner says he intends to launch the programme with an order for over 10 aircraft from a single customer which he expects to secure over the next couple of months. Once launched, Wagner expects the certification process to take two years. He says the maintenance firm performing the initial conversions is still to be determined but he now talking to shops in Asia and the US.

767-300ER conversions are currently done in Singapore and Israel. The Singapore conversions are performed by Singapore Technologies Aerospace but marketed by Boeing. The Israel conversions are offered by a joint venture consisting of IAI and Japan's Mitsui. Boeing says it has done six 767-300ER conversions so far with a seventh to be completed by the end of this year while IAI says it has done three 767-300ER conversions with a fourth to be completed by the end of this year.

Wagner says he has held back the last two years in joining Boeing and IAI in the 767-300ER P2F market due to the economic downturn, which has impacted demand for converted freighters. "That is changing," Wagner says.

He adds that a lack of available 767 passenger aircraft, primarily due to delays in Boeing 787 deliveries, was a second factor. But feedstock is expected to improve as 787 deliveries are finally set to begin next year.

He says Wagner has not yet decided whether to launch the programme on its own or with a joint venture partner. For the 757 Wagner partnered with the Erickson Group in 2001 to form Precision Conversion. Wagner was the lead design firm during the development phase with Bill Wagner serving as VP of engineering. But Wagner has since exited the joint venture and no longer has a stake in Precision.

While Wagner has never been involved in a widebody cargo conversion programme he says "the 767 is a natural jump for us off the 757. They are similar aircraft." Wagner Aeronautical, which was first established in 1993, also has provided engineering services as a subcontractor for conversion programmes involving the Boeing 727, 737 and 747. Wagner says while his firm is small - its core group only consists of 12 employees - it has the potential of spooling up and securing the capital needed to launch a 767 PTF programme without a commercial partner.

Earlier this year Wagner elected to pursue a P2F product for the Boeing MD-80 on its own. Wagner announced in February it was starting to offer a P2F conversion for the MD-80 and had entered into an agreement with Boeing to license the manufacturer's engineering data to support its pursuit of an STC for the MD-80SF. But Wagner says his firm is now reconsidering pursuing the MD-80SF and it is more likely the 767-300ER will be Wagner's next project.

"We're kind of holding, waiting for a launch customer," Wagner says of the MD-80.

When Wagner announced the MD-80SF programme in February he said he was expecting to secure a launch customer within a few months. "That hasn't worked out to date," he says. "It was not as firm as we thought."

Aeronautical Engineers (AEI), only a couple of days after Wagner announced its plans to pursue the MD-80SF, launched its own product for the MD-80SF. AEI also has a license from Boeing that gives it access to the manufacturer's data. But, unlike Wagner, AEI decided to acquire a used MD-80 and start working on a prototype before securing a launch customer.

"I don't think the MD-80 is one I want to speculate on," Wagner says. "It's an unproven entity."

Wagner believes the MD-80SF market will be relatively small but is still potentially large enough to support two players. He acknowledges AEI will be first to market as it has already embarked on the certification process which is expected to result in an STC in the third quarter of 2011. "They definitely have an advantage but there's always room for two," Wagner says.

Titlu: A320PTF deal secured despite second delay
Sursa: flightglobal
Autor: Brendan Sobie
Data: 21.10.2010

Citat :
Airbus Freighter Conversion's launch customer for the A320 passenger-to-freighter (PTF) conversion programme has found a client to lease three of the jets, but target certification has been pushed back to late 2012.

AerCap, a lessor headquartered in the Netherlands, signed an order for 30 of the conversions in 2008, and has now struck a deal with West Atlantic under which the European cargo carrier will take a first A320PTF in November 2012 and two more in early 2013.

However, the economic downturn has forced Airbus to amend its certification schedule for a second time. The airframer originally planned to start work on the first A320PTF at the beginning of 2011 and complete it at the end of that year. The first delay saw the target certification date slip to mid-2012. Now it has moved again, to November 2012.

Michael Fuerst, Airbus Freighter Conversion's vice-president of marketing, says the first of the West Atlantic aircraft will be the prototype A320PTF, on which Airbus now plans to start working at the EADS EFW facility in Dresden at the end of 2011.

Starting the A320PTF deliveries at the end of 2012 was deemed to make more sense given demand and aircraft availability. "We thought it wasn't ready," Fuerst said during the Cargo Facts Aircraft Symposium in Miami. "We need the right feedstock and the right prices of feedstock."

The on-ramp cost of an A320PTF is now $9-11 million, comprising $4.5 million for the conversion and $4.5-6.5 million for the aircraft itself. Fuerst says the feedstock price is down "at least a few million" compared with when the A320PTF programme was launched.

The first four A320s to be converted will all start the process by the end of 2012, he adds. Airbus plans to convert 15-16 aircraft in 2013.

A second A320PTF conversion line to join the one in Dresden is slated to open in 2013, via a partnership with Russia's United Aircraft. Once both lines are at full capacity, Airbus will have the capability to convert 30 aircraft annually: 15 at each centre.
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MesajSubiect: Re: Avioane conversie Pasageri-Cargo   Vin 03 Iun 2011, 18:31

Titlu: Airbus cancels A320 freighter conversion programme
Sursa: flightglobal
Autor: David Kaminski-Morrow
Data: 03.06.2011


Citat :
Airbus is cancelling its A320 freighter conversion programme, and has started to dissolve its partnership with Russian aerospace firms United Aircraft and Irkut.

The airframer cites "more demand" for passenger twinjets in the sector and not enough for the cargo version.

"Against the backdrop of these market changes and the increasing pressure on the [passenger-to-freighter] business case, the partners have concluded to stop and freeze the P2F programme," said Airbus.

It added that it had begun the "necessary legal procedures" to end the Airbus Freighter Conversion joint venture between the modification specialist EADS EFW and the Russian partners.

"Strongly growing passenger traffic results in high demand for used A320 family aircraft, reducing the amount of aircraft available for conversion," Airbus said.

Airbus Freighter Conversion was 32%-owned by EADS EFW while Airbus had 18%. United Aircraft and Irkut equally shared the other 50%.

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